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Bring on the Night
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Posted - 09/06/2006 :  18:16:28  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
Okay, we all know that Buffy died twice- in Prophecy Girl and in The Gift. But didn't she technically die in Villians? Her heart stopped, and Xander mentioned that her dying wasn't funny anymore.

So, didn't Buffy technically die three times?

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no_power_in_the_verse
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Posted - 09/06/2006 :  18:30:53  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see no_power_in_the_verse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Yeah she died three times

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Umad
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  11:54:47  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
No, she didn't die in season 6. At the hospital after Willow orders the doctors and nurses to leave, Xander says: "Will, what are you doing? she's going to die!" and then Willow says: "No, she isn't". So she didn't die, Willow saved her before she dies.
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doppelganger
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  12:00:18  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see doppelganger's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
But in the hospital, she flatlines, which means her heart stopped beating, which is technically a death.

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Bring on the Night
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  21:37:24  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Yeah, she technically died. Plus, Xander said, "You've got to stop doing this. This dying thing's funny once, maybe twice" talking to buffy, so she must have died.

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no_power_in_the_verse
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  21:58:50  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see no_power_in_the_verse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I think Willow meant die and stay dead

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godphill
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Posted - 11/06/2006 :  08:39:38  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see godphill's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I dont know if it counts cos its in a differnt realty but she died in the Wish to.

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no_power_in_the_verse
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Posted - 11/06/2006 :  12:36:28  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see no_power_in_the_verse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
That certainly doesnt count

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godphill
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Posted - 11/06/2006 :  12:39:56  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see godphill's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
ok so when she turned into a vamp in nightmares that dont count ether

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no_power_in_the_verse
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Posted - 11/06/2006 :  12:47:59  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see no_power_in_the_verse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
No, everything that happened there never actually happened

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godphill
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Posted - 11/06/2006 :  12:50:39  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see godphill's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Damn those alternate realitys and scycic relms

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Llamajean
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Posted - 12/06/2006 :  02:50:44  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Got it. No more buttmonkey. :)

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lil_nico
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Posted - 12/06/2006 :  18:24:06  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see lil_nico's MSN Messenger address  Send lil_nico a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by no_power_in_the_verse

Yeah she died three times



I think that pretty much ends this topic :)

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Covenant
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Posted - 13/06/2006 :  05:29:44  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Send Covenant an AOL message  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Acually in Nightmares it specifcally stated that everything that was happening is VERY real. So yes technicaly she did die 4 times. There is an arguement for her dying in Wish though...alternate realities really shouldn't count.

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no_power_in_the_verse
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Posted - 13/06/2006 :  11:25:31  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see no_power_in_the_verse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
quote:
Acually in Nightmares it specifcally stated that everything that was happening is VERY real.

Everything that happened in Nightmares was reversed. Plus she didnt actually die, she was magically turned into a vampire, not by the normal means. She wasnt drained of blood and then drank someone elses blood. She continued to help the gang out even as a vampire so her soul didnt dissapear therefore not dead. Giles nightmare was the Buffy would die and the gravestone was the symbolic referance to that, not that she actually died. Buffy's nightmare was to be a vampire, not necesarily to die to become one. Nightmares are scattered, you dont see everything in them and you have many elpises, one second this is happening the next second you are somewhere else.

In conclusion, just because Buffy was a vampire it doesnt translate to her being dead

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Drusillaschild
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Posted - 13/06/2006 :  12:00:45  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see Drusillaschild's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
buffy died four times, two in alternate reality

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no_power_in_the_verse
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Posted - 13/06/2006 :  14:07:14  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see no_power_in_the_verse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Drusillaschild

buffy died four times, two in alternate reality


Buffy died 5 times, 2 in alternate reality

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Bring on the Night
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Posted - 14/06/2006 :  01:30:14  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by no_power_in_the_verse

quote:
Originally posted by Drusillaschild

buffy died four times, two in alternate reality


Buffy died 5 times, 2 in alternate reality



But, like someone said earlier, why would alternate realities count? Since, in the Wish everything that happened didn't ACTUALLY happen, it was just what COULD of happened if things were different.

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no_power_in_the_verse
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Posted - 14/06/2006 :  01:37:54  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Click to see no_power_in_the_verse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
The ones in the alternate realities dont count, it was me who said that in the first place. People wanted specifics.

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Covenant
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Posted - 15/06/2006 :  05:16:56  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Send Covenant an AOL message  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I have to disagree with you No power. By definition a vampire is dead. But as seen with Angel and Spike a vampire CAN have a soul. I still think that counts as a legit death.

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buffy-rockz
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Posted - 15/06/2006 :  09:59:29  Show Profile  Visit buffy-rockz's Homepage  Edit Reply  Send buffy-rockz an AOL message  Send buffy-rockz an ICQ Message  Click to see buffy-rockz's MSN Messenger address  Send buffy-rockz a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
if buffys death in villians counted it wuld of been mentioned cause joss wuld of done that and i think he knows more bout buffy den us derr and the death in the wish shuld not be counted coz the real characters didnt no of it in the real sunnydale

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